Hypothetical

[DiminishingReturnsOfficer]

If someone were to offer you the system of your dreams (whatever that might be) under the following 3 conditions, would you accept the offer?
Condition #1) None of the gear or parts could be sold or separated from the system.
Condition #2) It had to be installed in place of your current "main" system.
Condition #3) You had to reverse the left and right speaker leads and keep it this way. This condition could not be defeated electronically and you had to listen facing the speakers.

[wgscott]

Absolutely. The system of my dreams has inverted stereo imaging, so unless I am listening to a chorus of Fermions, this would be a perfect solution.

[AudioDoctor]

No, I would not accept it.

[Guidof]

No. It sounds like a Faustian bargain.

Guido F.

[souptin]

?question this asking you are Why

[AudioDoctor]

?question this asking you are why

lol

[Paul.Raulerson]

Aye laddie- as long as in my dream:

#4) It's upgradable and
#5) It's free.

If someone were to offer you the system of your dreams (whatever that might be) under the following 3 conditions, would you accept the offer?
Condition #1) None of the gear or parts could be sold or separated from the system.
Condition #2) It had to be installed in place of your current "main" system.
Condition #3) You had to reverse the left and right speaker leads and keep it this way. This condition could not be defeated electronically and you had to listen facing the speakers.

[coot]

No, it would have to have un-reversed channels. However, it would have to have an unchangeable volume control that begins totally silent and increases 1 db a month (or year - selectable) until suitable volume has been reached. This is because this is the way my life has worked out. Your life may vary.

[NOMBEDES]

Why would anyone ask such a question?

But yes,I will take a 200K or 300K of free gear. I often put my headphones on backwards, (forgive me, I drink) makes no difference to me.

[wkhanna]

.....forgive me, I drink.....

If we need forgiveness for drinking..... we are in the wrong place.

[NOMBEDES]

If we need forgiveness for drinking..... we are in the wrong place.

Yes, yes, but do I need forgiveness for putting my headphones on backwards?

[wkhanna]

Well, I guess that depends on whether you were doing that Linda Blair thing or not.

[Paul.Raulerson]

Depends upon whether your head is screwed on straight or not-- and if you have been drinking enough, then that isn't really a problem at all, is it?
If you have not been drinking enough, here - have an nice cold virtual Sam Adams on me...

-Paul

Yes, yes, but do I need forgiveness for putting my headphones on backwards?

[PeterSt]

This condition could not be defeated electronically and you had to listen facing the speakers.

Oh is that so. Then I'd swap the speakers.
Or did I miss the small print ?

[DigiPete]

If someone were to offer you the system of your dreams (whatever that might be) under the following 3 conditions, would you accept the offer?
Condition #1) None of the gear or parts could be sold or separated from the system.
Condition #2) It had to be installed in place of your current "main" system.
Condition #3) You had to reverse the left and right speaker leads and keep it this way. This condition could not be defeated electronically and you had to listen facing the speakers.

Yes I would.







Now my dream system is a Auro-3D 13.1 setup of Steinway-Lyngdorf
Auro-3D / Auro Technologies : Three-dimensional sound


I'll take 7 SL model D for the std. surround channels
Steinway Lyngdorf - Model D Speaker

I'l add 6 SL model S-15 for the height layer and top layer
as I', not greedy and the small S-15's should suffice.
Steinway Lyngdorf - S-15IW

Lastly for the bottom end of the height layers I'll add one sob in each corner, i.e. 4 S-210
Steinway Lyngdorf - S-210


Add to that the number of Digital amps and surround processors needed to drive everything fully active including the S-15's.
Steinway Lyngdorf - Digital Amplifier
Steinway Lyngdorf - Surround Processor - Model P1


Now I'll need some 200m2 to house this monster, so throw in a significant update to my small downtown Copenhagen Penthouse.


In return I will promise to listen to all stereo music reversed (left to right) and enjoy it exactly as it is.
I will even throw in all surround music to be listened in reverse.

USD 2M should be able to do it.

I'll even make due with a Auro-3D 9.1 setup of Steinway-Lyngdorf model S only if it includes 4 subs if you are cheap about it!

Or perhaps I'll just update my existing 5.1 Genelec setup to 9.1 in due time.

[PeterSt]

DigiPete,

You can also change back the channels DIGITALLY. Yes, especially you.
Could not find that in the small print either.

Peter

[DigiPete]

DigiPete,

You can also change back the channels DIGITALLY. Yes, especially you.
Could not find that in the small print either.

Peter

I know, I know, I know!

But I am genuinely willing to reverse sound as long as there are not pictures to go along with it.
That would be too confusing for my brain.

I do not see the harm, and I bet most of us will hardly notice on most recordings.
Then some recordings are so distinctive, that you will notice, but what is the harm?

Just my 5 cents - and hey it is Steinway - Lyngdorf

[Encore]

I know, I know, I know!

But I am genuinely willing to reverse sound as long as there are not pictures to go along with it.

For the system of my dreams, so would I. The brain adapts fairly easily to glasses which turns everything upside down, so I really don't think switching stereo channels would present any major problem.

[mav52]

If someone were to offer you the system of your dreams (whatever that might be) under the following 3 conditions, would you accept the offer?
Condition #1) None of the gear or parts could be sold or separated from the system.
Condition #2) It had to be installed in place of your current "main" system.
Condition #3) You had to reverse the left and right speaker leads and keep it this way. This condition could not be defeated electronically and you had to listen facing the speakers.

Sure why not, its only music and freebies are nice.

[AudioDoctor]

I was thinking about this last night and came to some conclusions. In my opinion I am enjoying my current system so much that I think it may be my dream system. A simple speaker change may get me there, Zu Essence to either a Druid V or the Definition IV, may be the key that gets it done. So no, I would not take your offer because I am already so close to sonic nirvana already.

[Paul.Raulerson]

LOL! I was thinking along the same lines last night. I am rather happy with what I build and put together, because it suits me and it doesn't come with *any* conditions - albeit there are a few compromises. But those compromises are my choices too - based upon what I judge to be important and meaningful.

A dream system to me would have to have to be something I selected and designed, otherwise it would not be a dream system.

And it would involve custom building a house to suit the music and our esthetics. Gets rather expensive that way.

-Paul

I was thinking about this last night and came to some conclusions. In my opinion I am enjoying my current system so much that I think it may be my dream system. A simple speaker change may get me there, Zu Essence to either a Druid V or the Definition IV, may be the key that gets it done. So no, I would not take your offer because I am already so close to sonic nirvana already.

[DiminishingReturnsOfficer]

Since its come up, my reasons for starting this thread are #1) to see how important proper soundstaging is to fellow listeners, and #2) I thought some might enjoy a break from "which [cable, DAC, hard drive, file format, or quartz oscillator] sounds best?" Don't get me wrong, though, that's all great stuff. #3) Wondering about such things is just the way my mind works, and I offer no appologies for that. *) the hypothetical also addresses how satisfied you are with your current music playback system. Personally, I'm not that close to the system of my dreams, but I'm close enough that I'd rather have violins on the left and cellos on the right than an extra quarter million worth of resolution and tonality.

[PeterSt]

Since we are getting serious anyway ...

but I'm close enough that I'd rather have violins on the left and cellos on the right than an extra quarter million worth of resolution and tonality.

Reading your first lines I already had in mind to exactly say this. Ok, I thought of a Hammond from Jon Lord, but what's the difference. No wait, your example is better because more people may understand how an orchestra is formatted than how Deep Purple connects the wires.

Of course I would not be able to ever listen to such a swap of channels. Heck, I'm used all my life to I put a Spell on You (CCR) and when those channels swap I will have a disorder somewhere.

Somehow I knew it had to be a good subject, although I couldn't see how. Now I can.
Thanks,
Peter

[designmule]

It doesn't sound as if the OP had any ill will in asking the question but my initial take was "would all you perfectionists, accept a "perfect" system on the condition that one thing is obviously not right?"

I'd probably bite and say "I'll take it" but I've always found that mass buying results in disappointment.

A couple of examples. I usually buy CDs in batches but when I do inevitably they don't get listened to as thoroughly as when I buy them one at a time. Additionally, thanks to holiday bonus I usually have the cash to purchase a couple/few upgrades for my system (depending on price). I'm always super excited but by the time the second or third UPS package arrives I have a poor handle on my system and how I react to it. It takes the lean months (like now) to figure out if I like it.