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    How much time do people spend just listening to music vs. thinking or tinkering with gear

    Of all your audio time: How much time do people spend just listening to music vs. thinking or tinkering with gear (including time on the web at sites like this).
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    Listening almost non stop; thinking and spending time on websites like this maybe an hour a day on average but no tinkering at all. Don't fix it if it ain't broken.
    If you had the memory of a goldfish, maybe it would work.

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    Very little thinking (tinkering) or analysis of components. In fact if it makes me think about what's going on with the equipment it puts red flags up for me. I am at a point where I can analyse things pretty quickly and then move on to listening to music. If a component or system doesn't allow that then something's not right. I like to spend around 1/2 hr a day on websites on average reading, etc..
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    I have never heard a "uber-fi" system so I don't know how good a system can sound. The computer/electronics nerd in me is always reading and tweaking my system to see what changes with the goal of better sound. It is part of the fun for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wgscott View Post
    I sold all my gear to help pay for my internet connection so I could keep up with this web-site.
    I thought I was the only one who did that...
    The idiocracy is now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Gillespie View Post
    Of all your audio time: How much time do people spend just listening to music vs. thinking or tinkering with gear (including time on the web at sites like this).
    I spend hours listening to music while I think and tinker with gear and even prescribe music to others as medicine for what promotes or heals or...
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    Hours listening, tinkering very very little.
    "Maybe you need to stop looking for what other people claim is best, and start assembling a system that's in sync with your own musical taste"

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    One of my favorite jokes "What's the difference between an Audiophile and the rest of the world? An Audiophile listens to the equipment and the rest of the world listens to the music."

    I spend 1-4 or more hours a day in the media room as I get back into this hobby. I'm cueing up old albums I've not listened to in years and buying new stuff as well. The new stuff I really do force myself to leave the system alone as I like listening to albums start->finish. The stuff I've heard 1000's of times, if it sounds "off", I'll start to tinker. Sometimes my listening sessions are more tinker than listening to the music.

    Unless of course my girlfriend is with me. She refuses to let me tinker if she is in the room. She can't tell the difference anyway. A lot of our conversations go like this:
    Me: How is that! Better?
    Her: It sounded good before. It sounds good still.
    Me: No, but is it better?
    Her: Can we just put the music back on please? It sounds good. I don't know what you did.
    Me: Fine

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    I used to spend pretty much all of my time obsessing over the gear, buying and selling and trading in a seemingly endless cycle. I don't know if I even enjoyed the music, I was so fixated on the gear. Then, kind of out of the blue, I started using a Squeezebox as my only digital source, ditching my CD player (and tuner, for that matter), choosing convenience over everything (and the sound really was quite good, to boot). Then I ran the Squeezebox through an outboard DAC, and everything became noticeably. Shortly thereafter I ended up ditching my turntable. Then I acquired a nice laptop very cheaply and started using it with a USB DAC and thought the sound got even better. So, after a bit more selling (and saving) I utlimately acquired a very nice (IMO) FireWire DAC and some software that, combined with the laptop, created the best source I had heard to date. At that point there was no reason to ever go back - the source argument in my head was over. And that was huge thing to get by.

    Once the source had been figured out, I moved on to cabling. And for me this was easy because in the end the difference between cables was honestly pretty tough for me to discern. I could go back and forth between interconnects, for example, and think I heard something one time, but then not the next and so on. There was no consistency. So, I turned to well-made, affordable cables and that was that.

    After the cabling was done, I started thinking about the integrated amp and what I was using it for (number of sources, the speakers I wanted to use, etc.). I ditched my all tube integrated and went with a little battery-powered boutique job (although quite affordable) with enough inputs to accomodate the DAC - which processes the signal from the laptop and our television - and the Squeezebox my wife uses (avoiding the laptop at all costs).

    Lastly were the speakers. I knew I wanted a single driver (to me, guitar, lute, piano and a slew of other acoustic instruments just now right through them) and ultimately went with a pair of backloaded horns that reproduce midrange wonderfully. And the 15 watts/channel from the integrated is plenty to power them and still provide ample bass and clean treble.

    So, even though I just stated how I essentially further tickered with the gear to get to this point, I feel I'm honestly done (my wife and father would have a good laugh at that). I'm finally to a point where I can peruse a certain audio classifieds site and literally not find anything of interest to me. I suppose I'll always be curious about the beautifully-engineered and coincidentally stratospherically-priced gear, but I've found true value in what I have, equipment that is presentable, and more than anything a sound that I appreciate and genuinely like...of course, that is, depending on the recording.
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    Musique Non Stop Mick The Kraken's Avatar
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    Pardon the typos...

    "Then I ran the Squeezebox through an outboard DAC, and everything became noticeably better."

    "(to me, guitar, lute, piano and a slew of other acoustic instruments just sound right through them)"
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    95% of Music listening now, quite some tinkering in the last year to get my new chain complete, and since then, only tinkering a bit on the software side, hence this forum. But even here I try to focus my discussions on the music, not on the gear.
    iMac late 2009 8GB > Audirvana+/Amarra > Audioquest Forest USB > BelCanto mlink > Atlas Ascent BNC > Exposure 2010S2 Dac > Audioquest King Cobra > Exposure 3010S2 Integrated > Chord Carnival Classic > B&W CM8