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    WYRED4SOUND DACS

    Has anyone had any experience with the WYRED4SOUND DAC1 or 2? I'm contemplating a purchase and have read very good reports including 6Moons.
    But would like to hear a users perspective. Planning on using it in a SONOS system to improve sound a bit.

    Any other recommendations in the $1K range. Requirements are a minimum of 24/96 sampling rate with Coax and USB support.

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    Head on over to HeadFi

    There are a bunch of guys at the HeadFi site who own these. I should have mine in about 2-3 weeks. Back ordered now. The guys I post w/over there who have them also have Woo headphone Amps.
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    There is

    already plenty of commentary on this DAC on this site. Do a search of the DAC section of these forums for more info.
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    Maybe try the search without

    Maybe try the search without the Caps Lock Key activated.
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    Thanks

    That's what I was looking for. The HeadFi site is a great info resource on this DAC.

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    W4S DAC2

    I have the DAC2 and are very happy with it. I use it as a pre-amp with a pair of SX-1000 amps.
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    Sonos = 16/44.1

    Last time I checked, the Sonos units did not do HiRez audio. Be sure that they have upgraded their hardware/software to handle 24/96 audio.

    Either way, I love my W4S DAC2. I also have the PSAudio DLIII with lvl 4 mods which these same guys did (Cullen Circuits). I know their sound already, and continue to be happy with both units. The PSAudio DLIII improved greatly with the Halide Bridge USB-SPDIF interface.
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    Sonos Bit Perfect

    My understanding is that the Sonos is a bit perfect source component. No sense in wasting $$ on an external DAC otherwise.



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    Wyred 4 Sound DAC 2

    I have been an audiophile for over 30 years, consulted on audio reviews with one of the largest print publications and love music. I recently purchased the DAC 2 directly from Wyred 4 Sound. Although back ordered, they delivered the DAC 2 on the day promised...wonderful people to deal with.

    Out of the box, it sounded grainy, forward and overall just terrible. It took a full two weeks of warm up to transform itself into probably the best buy in audio. Music emerges from a completely silent background creating a realistic musical experience with a wide open sound stage and loads natural detail to burn. It killed my venerable Benchmark DAC1 and hung in there with the Berkeley(over 3 times the price).
    All of my listening was done through the IS2 interface using PS Audio's Perfectwave transport.

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    Goodness

    My DAC2 also sounded very ordinary on delivery. After lots of hours, it now sounds very good but the usb input is greatly affected by the cable used. The spdif bnc input is excellent (special order) and the dac ranks with my UA2192 and TW Buffalo 1 with seven power supplies, with each with a different voicing. My dCS 954 is better.

    The DAC2's filter settings make a significant difference to the 'voice'. I use no attenuation and 65k roll off. The power supply also makes a difference. I use a PS300 at 59 Hz in a 50 Hz area.

    EJ has 'promised' a I2S board for my RME9632 but he has been busy.
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    W4S

    A friend from Sydney, who has posted in another thread here about the W4S, has told me that his greatly benefitted from a decent mains filter preceeding it.

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    WFS DAC2

    I have owned a DAC2 for quite a while now and I know of no DAC cheaper that it does not show a clean pair of heels to. For example it blew away a Havana. That said I know of some DAC's at around it price that to my ears can best it. For example the Tranquility DAC is more analogue and fluid - think mercury. However it does not do high res and is USB only. For what you are after I really can't think of anything better. Oh and I do know of some DAC's with the features you are after that are more expensive and can best it - but at the WFS's price point and with the features you want - no.

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    DAC2 Settings

    A question about your DAC2 settings...The manual lists IIR bandwidth choices of

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    I finally got around to

    I finally got around to hearing this Dac; not easy in England.
    I had pretty high expectations having read the reviews (I should know better).
    I have to say the listening was done in far from ideal circumstances and wasn’t through kit I know.
    However, having waited to go for a Dac upgrade until I had heard this Dac to say I was disappointed is a vast understatement.
    It may suit some, but I wont be buying it.

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    Settings

    I use 60k and 70k with fast roll off.

    You need to listen to decide on which stting suits your system

    I listen to hires only and not Red Book.

    The input is even more important. spdif on bnc (special order) sounds much more consistent than usb, which is strongly cab;e dependent. Cutting V+ on a premium quality 0.5m PC cable makes an important improvement. The two Audioquests 1.5m sounds very different I don't like them.

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    Settings

    Thank you. I listen to both hires and Red Book through usb. Will try various settings as you recommend. So far, I've been using the defaults in those two areas. Not sure what you mean by "cutting V+"?. I do have some decent usb cables to rotate (Kimber, db Audio Signature, Wireworld Starlight, Furutech GT2.

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    Cables

    Cut the 5V power supply on the cable from the PC end (Red). Wyred doesn't need it.

    What is your experience with the Starlight in particular and the others in general?
    fmak

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    To The Guy In England

    That was my reaction and the reaction of a number of other people that heard one that was not broken in. It does get better with break in so it would probably would be a good idea to hear it again after a couple of months or so. Mine is now fully broken in and it still does not do it for me either - I prefer the Tranquility and PDX.

    Thanks
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    USB port connection

    I now run my W4S dac2 from a rear panel USB 3.0 port on my W7 pc, with all other USB devices connected to the (other) USB 2.0 hub.

    This was another step up in performance - presumably because the 3.0 is not shared with any other devices and is directly connected to the motherboard.

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    W4S DAC2

    Hi there,

    Regrettably i have to let go my beloved W4S DAC2 with Entreq USB Discover, so if anyone interested please let me know.
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