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    Clicks! and ticks! and pops! Oh my!

    This happens when upsampling to 192 through Pure Music. Anyone know what the problem could be?
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    What does it do when you play a native 24/192 file?
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    Upsampling may need a lot of CPU power. So it depends on how good your computer is. Modify some of the settings of Pure Music may help.

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    I am only listening to my CDs ripped with XLD, apple lossless, so 44.1/16. No problem without upsampling although the SQ is better with it if I just didn't get those clicks and pops!

    I have 16G RAM in my 2010 Mac mini.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleidosoul View Post
    I am only listening to my CDs ripped with XLD, apple lossless, so 44.1/16. No problem without upsampling although the SQ is better with it if I just didn't get those clicks and pops!

    I have 16G RAM in my 2010 Mac mini.
    16GB of RAM? I thought the 2010 Mac Mini (which I also have) maxed out at accepting and recognizing 8GB.
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    XLD or dbPoweramp for Mac for ripping

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    Other World Computer begs to differ and I defer to them. It works!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleidosoul View Post
    Other World Computer begs to differ and I defer to them. It works!
    Might be worth double checking, just went to the OWC site and the 2010 models seem only upgradeable to 8gb as mwheelerk suggested. There is a link there that has a guide showing how to identify the model of mac mini.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleidosoul View Post
    Other World Computer begs to differ and I defer to them. It works!
    From the OWC site 2011 it does state 16GB but for 2010 it shows only 8GB.

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    JRemote> Apple Remote app > Screens VNC app

    XLD or dbPoweramp for Mac for ripping

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    this small dilemma is easy to solve...

    Click the little apple in the top left corner and then click "about this mac" and tell us how much RAM it says your computer has.

    Here is mine:

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    Hey Ms. soul,

    Try rebooting the Mac and then immediately playing the upsampled music before doing anything else with the computer. Computers are usually at their best after reboot. If that doesn't help and if your system is set to do things at start up, disable those things and try again.

    I don't have Pure Music, so I can't help you there, but if it has settings for Dac buffer size and/or other tech settings you might have to go there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwheelerk View Post
    From the OWC site 2011 it does state 16GB but for 2010 it shows only 8GB.

    Apple Mac mini Memory DDR3 / Ram upgrades for 2009 Mac mini & 2010 Mac mini unibody models
    Yes, you are correct, as I originally bought the 16G for the 2011 model and then bought the 2010 model so I could have an unshared port for my DAC, but it works in my 2010 Mac mini just fine. It shows up as 16G in "about this Mac".
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    DO you have any native 24/192 to test with? Perhaps go download a test file from one of the hi res vendors and see if it also clicks and pops with the native file.

    edit: are you doing anything else with the computer at the same time?
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    I don't do anything else on this computer, so I'm sure I have restarted and only listened to music. I will try to DL a hi res file to test and check PM for any settings I've missed. Thanks for the suggestions, all.
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    I do find this odd as Pure Music is the one piece of software I have ZERO problems with, it always works as intended and sounds great doing it.
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    It almost sounds like you may have a gain problem. I see, though, that you have all Ayre electronics. I can't imagine Ayre being the source of your problem (Unless something is broken.). A few things you can try. 1. Try lowering the volume in your computer. Experiment with both the computers master volume control, and the volume of your media player. 2. Could have a broken cable. I would try swapping out your cables one at a time with a cable that is known to be good. It doesn't have to be expensive; just in good working order. 3. Download a different media player and see if the problem is still there. 4. Re-rip problem music. You can try different ripping software as well.

    Thats all I can think of for now. If I think of anything else, I will post.

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    I changed the upsampling to only by two in Pure Music and that seems to have solved the problem. Upsampling really makes a big difference in sound quality! That, and finally getting my sub set just right since upgrading my amp is making me so happy!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by audiophile police View Post
    I suspect it's the laptop hardware that's all behind this.

    As you know the macbooks are tick generators.... Never ran into this ticky tickie toc issue with the desktop Windows PC's and other *old* Windows laptops.

    Oh wait, that's because they are made better.
    Seriously? You're going with that tired old line? I wish all the Mac/Apple bashers could come up with some new material.
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    I don't think he can come up with any new material. That's why some people become doctors, while others become public servants.

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    Similar problem with HiFace and my MBP and almost gave up. Switched to the other USB port and not only did the sound improve 100 fold but the ticks went away. Did you try all the USB ports and hog mode?

    Im thinking of using a MAC Mini but it seems to only have one USB bus that isn't shared with three other things and that port is shared with the IR receiver? What else is on your USB bus?