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    Harbeth P3ESR - 7ESR - Monitor 30.1

    Dear forummembers,

    I am interested on your experiences using either of the current Harbeth speakers P3ESR, 7EST or Monito 30.1. I am about to audion them and am interested in experiences comparing the models. There is quite some price differences between them, so anxious to know whether these differences are worth the money. Of course I will home audition myself, but your insights are valuable.

    my system composes of Naim 152xS pre with Naim FlatCapXs psu, Naim Nap150xs power amp, Naim ND5XS streamer and Epos Epic 5 loudspeakers. Though the Epic's provide a very warm and airy sound with good stereo imaging, I believe they are the weak link in my set. Higher frequences could be a little harsh, and I think they sometimes miss some detail.
    i like the imaging capabilities of monitor speakers so thought of the above Harbeth. Also on the shortlist is Focal 1008be.

    In parallel with new speakers, I probably also invest in a separate Naim psu specifically for the streamer. I had a demo on it and was very impressed.

    cheers,
    iver

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    Hi. What is the size of your listening room and how much flexibility do you have for speaker placement?
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    Hi Christophe,

    my living room is 8m by 4m. The loudspeakers will "fire" from the long wall. I am sitting opposite along the other long wall. Distance between me and the speakers is approx 2.75m. I can have the speakers 60cm plus from the side walls, and max some 50cm from their backwall. I do have absorbtion boards behind my current speakers and also in other places in the room. My current Epson Epic 5 speakers (large 2,5 way standmounts) do not boom.

    If I go for the likes Harbeths, I prepared to invest in descent stands (Skylan or Custom Design).

    does this help for you ?
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    I have the 7ES-3. My room is shorter (4,5 m) but equally deep (4,1m). The bigger HLS5 are too big for my room, the 7ES-3 fits nicely. The Monitor 30.1:s should work well.

    Make as much space around them as possible – you can sit *really* close! Try double the distance to the back wall. I have something like 1,2m.

    Some years ago my setup was centered around pair of lovely Harbeth LS3/5a – the grandfather of the P3ESR. I would say the are too small for your room.

    Stands... The heavier the better. Footers are frustratingly important (depending on the floor construction). I use Vibrapods between speakers and my Sound Achors stands.

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    Thanks for the advize Freann !! What exactly are Vibrapods ?
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    I use the cones.
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    From the reviews I understand the new M30.1:s are more resolving with higher frequency extension, but a warmer and more forgiving than the old M30. The 7ES-3 might sound a bit bigger and softer – I havent heard the M30:s. Considering your Naim-gear the M30.1 is the better choice?

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    Expect bass response to be poor in such a large space. I'd look towards something more full range and efficient. Since you have plenty of room around the speakers, you won't be getting much room gain.....and that's a good thing as you'll get to hear mostly the response of the speaker instead.

    Before you make a purchase, check out the Amphion Argon3 or Argon 3L. With near flat response to 30hz the floorstander leaves nothing on the table.
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    I use Harbeth SHL5s in a room approximately 7m x 4m, 'firing' from the short wall. I have no bass problems with this setup so I suggest you add SHL5s to your shortlist to audition.
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    ALAC iTunes library on Synology DS412+ > Mac mini (2013, 16GB RAM) OSX Mavericks, Audirvana+ > USB > MF V-link192 > Metrum Octave DAC > LFD integrated > Harbeth P3ESRs and MF X-CANv8p > Sennheiser HD800