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  1. #426

    HiFace V2

    Mac mini, 8GB, Lion, A+ 1.3.9.5

    As I was really into taking advantage of direct plus integer mode, I bought an HiFace v2 (no drivers needed) to feed my M2Tech Young DAC.
    I constantly had kernel panics until I decided to restart from scratch, delete the plist file and then activate one preference option at the time trying to isolate which option was really causing the kernel panic: to my great surprise, everything worked fine and I was finally able to enjoy direct plus integer for hours without a single glitch.
    Next day I powered up my system for another listening session and guess what: kernel panics again....
    So this is what I found out, at least in my system: I need to play one song without direct mode enabled and after that I can re-enable the direct and integer options and everything works fine. I can also exit and then restart Audirvana: everything works until the next system restart.
    It looks like Audirvana needs to "talk" to the HiFace once, before being able to go with direct mode. Or, more appropriately, it looks like Audirvana needs to load some piece of software in "standard" mode (library, driver, core audio component, who knows....) before being able of using direct (and integer) mode.
    Hope this helps!
    Thanks Damien for this great sounding software.
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    The itunes library (the database file) is on my Macbook's SSD, but the music files are outside. They are on a Wi-Fi connected hard drive.

    Now what happens when I double click a song from my iTunes library? The track will be transfered from the hard drive to my Macbook over the air. Audirvana will load the track into RAM and will play it back from there.

    Not sure why you think I would have performance issues. The Kernel Panics also happen if I play music from the local SSD in non-iTunes mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundix View Post
    The itunes library (the database file) is on my Macbook's SSD, but the music files are outside. They are on a Wi-Fi connected hard drive.

    Now what happens when I double click a song from my iTunes library? The track will be transfered from the hard drive to my Macbook over the air. Audirvana will load the track into RAM and will play it back from there.

    Not sure why you think I would have performance issues. The Kernel Panics also happen if I play music from the local SSD in non-iTunes mode.
    I am not finding fault with you personally. Just reading the various posts, many members are experiencing kernel panics perhaps because of Damien's quest to make Direct/Integer mode perform (no thanks to Apple's OSX). And perhaps I am intruding on what you are basically satisfied with but for the occasional KPs.

    Not sure it's a scenario, "If it ain't broken, don't fix it...". I am merely spouting the company line: Keep your music library on a separate disk from the internal disk in your computer with the OSX. Keep your cables attached to your peripherals of a different type than the one to your Dac. Sending files over Wifi is not optimal (i.e., streaming), turning off certain functions improve (maybe that's the operational word, "improve") SQ and performance just as a faster processor and more memory contribute to the performance of software players.
    Perhaps what is best is for me to bow out gracefully and leave the "adjustments" if any to your good offices to decide what is ultimately satisfying. I am not proposing something arcane but rather fundamental. And, I think, there comes a time when one (read me) can become boorish to challenge another (that's what I am doing, I am a life coach/shaman) to rethink what they're doing that if changed would result in something not yet experienced. That is not my role in this case. So, allow me, to bow out and yield to what you discover and seek to change or not to change. You have exceptional equipment to start with.

    Above all, enjoy the music, which I think is what you are telling me is taking place aside from the KPs which many are experiencing. If I am correct your Dac is enabled for Direct/Integer mode. Mine is not, so I haven't a clue what that must sound like when it's operational.

    My best to you,
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  4. #429
    Hello Damien,
    Thanks for the work. I've been enjoying Audirvana Plus for sometime . . . until yesterday I found the beta that has Direct Mode.
    I have to say Direct Mode is amazing, a huge difference when enabled, but somehow either my 10.7.4 or Halide Design SPDIF Bridge doesn't work well with the latest beta. It plays for a while, and then a huge ban from my speaker, and my laptop freezes.
    I'd like to share the crash report as the attachment.
    Thank You.
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    That isn't streaming, it's more like downloading, because the track doesn't starts playing before the file was completely transferred.

    Step 1: I select a song in iTunes for playback

    Step 2: The file (not the music stream) will be transfered over the air.

    Step 3: Now as the music file is completely locally available, iTunes (or Audirvana in our case) starts playing the file.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peana61 View Post
    Mac mini, 8GB, Lion, A+ 1.3.9.5

    As I was really into taking advantage of direct plus integer mode, I bought an HiFace v2 (no drivers needed) to feed my M2Tech Young DAC.
    I constantly had kernel panics until I decided to restart from scratch, delete the plist file and then activate one preference option at the time trying to isolate which option was really causing the kernel panic: to my great surprise, everything worked fine and I was finally able to enjoy direct plus integer for hours without a single glitch.
    Next day I powered up my system for another listening session and guess what: kernel panics again....
    So this is what I found out, at least in my system: I need to play one song without direct mode enabled and after that I can re-enable the direct and integer options and everything works fine. I can also exit and then restart Audirvana: everything works until the next system restart.
    It looks like Audirvana needs to "talk" to the HiFace once, before being able to go with direct mode. Or, more appropriately, it looks like Audirvana needs to load some piece of software in "standard" mode (library, driver, core audio component, who knows....) before being able of using direct (and integer) mode.
    Hope this helps!
    Thanks Damien for this great sounding software.
    Rubens, this is very reminiscent of its behavior on my system. See my post of 8:53 pm yesterday. If I start the computer and first play a DSD file, kernel panic without fail. Once I play a PCM file, I can play as many DSD files as I want without a problem, until the next restart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soundix View Post
    That isn't streaming, it's more like downloading, because the track doesn't starts playing before the file was completely transferred.

    Step 1: I select a song in iTunes for playback

    Step 2: The file (not the music stream) will be transfered over the air.

    Step 3: Now as the music file is completely locally available, iTunes (or Audirvana in our case) starts playing the file.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    You are correct. I use an ethernet (wired) NAS drive with no issues. I don't think a wifi drive should present any special issues unless your wireless network is slow. I doubt it is the cause of the kernel panics, but best to send the crash log to Damien.
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    My Wi-Fi is 802.11n. Damien has already contacted me. Thanks.

  9. #434
    Quote Originally Posted by mwheelerk View Post
    I currently use a Bel Canto DAC 1.5 with the Audivrana Plus Direct Mode and Integer Mode and it sounds great. I am considering a possible change in my system and although with what I have in mind I could keep my Bel Canto I am also considering the Wadia 121 and maybe the DacMagic. Does anyone know if the DacMagic Plus or the Wadia 121 support Integer Mode? How would you find out?
    I've been using the Wadia 121 with one of the recent integer mode Beta releases. Works great, no issues at all and sounds wonderful with well recorded material. If you haven't already, try some of the Reference Recordings HRX DVD-R's.

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  10. #435
    Quote Originally Posted by Jud View Post
    Rubens, this is very reminiscent of its behavior on my system. See my post of 8:53 pm yesterday. If I start the computer and first play a DSD file, kernel panic without fail. Once I play a PCM file, I can play as many DSD files as I want without a problem, until the next restart.
    Me too!!

    I had no luck with 1.3.9.5. Every time I load A+ with integer mode, I found KP all the time. I had to go back to 1.3.9.3.

    After reading your posts, I tried it again with non integer mode first play and enable it later. Surprisingly, it works very well and now I can enjoy it even with some procedure to do every time after new system startup.

    Thank you for your valued comment.

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    I'm after a OS-X player that supports in-build convolution (so as to create a 3-way cross-over in the digital domain). Is this feature included in Audirvana Direct Mode? And, if so, then are there instructions / guide that can help me with the set-up? (This will be my first exploration of OS-X as I'm using a new MacBook Air running Windows bootcamp for work but wanted to use OS-X for media playback).

    APS

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    No. Shoot, you need a Hypex DLCP, not yet ready... but I wish it were. And a multiway buffered-output preamp. Such are uncommon in this universe! And I wouldn't trust my signal with current alternatives like a DEQX or a PA crossover.
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    3-way Crossover

    Damien said he is focussing on implementing Direct Mode in this release, and then he intends to add plugin support in the next release. However, i don't recall whether he announced plans to support multi-channel output as required for a crossover. Try searching the previous Audirvana Plus thread:
    Audirvana Plus with iTunes Integration

    Pure Music has 2-, 3- and 4-way crossovers built in, provided you are willing to use one of the built-in 6, 12, 18 or 24 dB/octave filter slopes.
    http://www.channld.com/PureMusicCrossover.pdf

    Pure Music also has multi-channel AU plugin support, so you could use a 3rd-party convolution plugin to implement a crossover.

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    If people want to discuss multi-channel crossovers apart from Audirvana, I think someone should start a new thread rather than hijacking this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Stern View Post
    3-way Crossover

    Damien said he is focussing on implementing Direct Mode in this release, and then he intends to add plugin support in the next release. However, i don't recall whether he announced plans to support multi-channel output as required for a crossover. Try searching the previous Audirvana Plus thread:
    Audirvana Plus with iTunes Integration
    1.5 (after the Direct Mode 1.4) will bring both AU/VST support, and multichannel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damien78 View Post
    1.5 (after the Direct Mode 1.4) will bring both AU/VST support, and multichannel.

    Damien
    oh that is great news Damien, I've been waiting for this since Audivarna's inception. AU/VST support will be the icing on the cake for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Stern View Post
    If people want to discuss multi-channel crossovers apart from Audirvana, I think someone should start a new thread rather than hijacking this one.
    +1

  18. #443
    Quote Originally Posted by Musicophile View Post
    My experience in the last days with the latest release is now much more positive, re. stability. Following a PM from Damien, I switched the settings on the preference, where I keep the the first "iTunes playback completely off" off, and only select the two other tick boxes (disabling volume control and play position). This has really increased my playback stability, barely any stuttering any more, no static noises. And finger crossed, not a single kernel panic here yet at all...

    However, during the last 2 days, I quite regularly had another little bug: after going to the next song during playback, Audirvana all over sudden stopped playing, and needed a full restart of the program (the rest of the computer not being impacted). Did anybody else experience this?

    This works reasonably well. Still sooner or later the Kernel Panic occurs.

    Something else: I've been playing my library from the top down but now and then it just stops playing. Press play and it starts again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Esprit View Post
    Mac mini, 4GB, Lion. I'm using A+ (1.9.3.5) w/o iTunes: SD files, HD files, SACD ISO no problems until now.
    Using the Mytek instead of an Echo: nothing works when I use the direct mode.
    I only have a continuous "rhythmic" dropout of the songs.

  20. #445
    I must be one of the lucky ones. I have been listening to 1.3.9.5 for three days with only one small problem - when I switch track to a different album, either by mouse click or using the iPad Remote app, it occasionally drops a faction of a second at the beginning of the new track. It sounds like a hiccup. It probably happens once every 40 to 50 tracks. Other than that, everything else is rock solid and no kernel panic (thank Almighty).

    It is running with Exclusive Access, Direct Mode, Integer Mode, Max I/O buffer on.

    The Mac is a 2009 Mini with 2 GHz Core 2 Duo, 8G RAM (5G allocated to A+); the DAC is a Benchmark DAC-1 USB.

  21. #446
    Overall, for me 1.3.9.5 is working pretty well. No kernel panic, great sound, and no more stuttering.

    However, I have a lot of smart playlists of the type of "not played in the last 6 months". When Audirvana finishes playing the first song of that playlist, it tries to load the next one, starts playing it for half a second, but during this time the smart playlist gets updated (as the first song is now removed from the playlist) and then Audirvana immediately stops.

    Damien, please look into this.
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    I have a new Mac mini. I have one question. Is there *any* version of audirvana which is stable with OS Lion? Thanks.
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    This is a thread about a beta version helping to improve the future release of A+. If you want/need a stable version why don't you use the official release 1.3.5 available on Damien's website. No one should install beta software on a productive system and if so a proper backup is mandatory.
    I use direct mode A+ beta since it's initial availability. But I created an additional partition on my MBP for a clean install of Lion just to beta test A+. My shared library sits on an external hard drive. I did never have a kernel panic no matter which direct mode release I was testing.

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    Damien, I've just installed an outboard USB/SPDIF device which allows for integer mode...so I now get a living sense of a "kernel panic"....system falls apart every hour or so...but still, in the intervals between KP, sounds great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haujobb View Post
    This is a thread about a beta version helping to improve the future release of A+... ...I created an additional partition on my MBP for a clean install of Lion just to beta test A+. My shared library sits on an external hard drive. I did never have a kernel panic...
    Thank you haujobb. I've been reading hundreds of Audirvana posts, but I missed the large section in the iTunes Integration thread that traces the success of older and current releases--it wasn't an obvious place to look if you only viewed the last few weeks. But now, I'm sure to get A+ 1.3.5 as you suggested. Best regards
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