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Thread: Audirvana Plus: Direct Mode
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07-17-2012, 11:10 AM #426
HiFace V2
Mac mini, 8GB, Lion, A+ 1.3.9.5
As I was really into taking advantage of direct plus integer mode, I bought an HiFace v2 (no drivers needed) to feed my M2Tech Young DAC.
I constantly had kernel panics until I decided to restart from scratch, delete the plist file and then activate one preference option at the time trying to isolate which option was really causing the kernel panic: to my great surprise, everything worked fine and I was finally able to enjoy direct plus integer for hours without a single glitch.
Next day I powered up my system for another listening session and guess what: kernel panics again....
So this is what I found out, at least in my system: I need to play one song without direct mode enabled and after that I can re-enable the direct and integer options and everything works fine. I can also exit and then restart Audirvana: everything works until the next system restart.
It looks like Audirvana needs to "talk" to the HiFace once, before being able to go with direct mode. Or, more appropriately, it looks like Audirvana needs to load some piece of software in "standard" mode (library, driver, core audio component, who knows....) before being able of using direct (and integer) mode.
Hope this helps!
Thanks Damien for this great sounding software.Rubens
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07-17-2012, 11:23 AM #427
The itunes library (the database file) is on my Macbook's SSD, but the music files are outside. They are on a Wi-Fi connected hard drive.
Now what happens when I double click a song from my iTunes library? The track will be transfered from the hard drive to my Macbook over the air. Audirvana will load the track into RAM and will play it back from there.
Not sure why you think I would have performance issues. The Kernel Panics also happen if I play music from the local SSD in non-iTunes mode.
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07-17-2012, 11:47 AM #428
I am not finding fault with you personally. Just reading the various posts, many members are experiencing kernel panics perhaps because of Damien's quest to make Direct/Integer mode perform (no thanks to Apple's OSX). And perhaps I am intruding on what you are basically satisfied with but for the occasional KPs.
Not sure it's a scenario, "If it ain't broken, don't fix it...". I am merely spouting the company line: Keep your music library on a separate disk from the internal disk in your computer with the OSX. Keep your cables attached to your peripherals of a different type than the one to your Dac. Sending files over Wifi is not optimal (i.e., streaming), turning off certain functions improve (maybe that's the operational word, "improve") SQ and performance just as a faster processor and more memory contribute to the performance of software players.
Perhaps what is best is for me to bow out gracefully and leave the "adjustments" if any to your good offices to decide what is ultimately satisfying. I am not proposing something arcane but rather fundamental. And, I think, there comes a time when one (read me) can become boorish to challenge another (that's what I am doing, I am a life coach/shaman) to rethink what they're doing that if changed would result in something not yet experienced. That is not my role in this case. So, allow me, to bow out and yield to what you discover and seek to change or not to change. You have exceptional equipment to start with.
Above all, enjoy the music, which I think is what you are telling me is taking place aside from the KPs which many are experiencing. If I am correct your Dac is enabled for Direct/Integer mode. Mine is not, so I haven't a clue what that must sound like when it's operational.
My best to you,
RichardSoftware: Mountain Lion, iTunes, Amarra Symphony, Audirvana Plus+, BitPerfect, Decibel, Fidelia, Pure Music; Computer: Mac Mini (2011, 2.7 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo i7, 16GB, int. SSD 256GB; Video: 27" Cinema Thunderbolt Display; Storage: Promise Pegasus 12TB Raid 5; Digital: Oppo BDP-95/93/83SE; Wyred 4 Sound DAC2, Atlona AT-HD577; Preamplification: Wyred 4 Sound STP-SE; Amplification: W4S SX1000 (x2); Bryston 10B Sub LR 50Hz, 24dB/Octave/2-way active crossover; Speakers: KEF Reference 107; JL Audio F112 x 2 set to mono; KEF X300A; Cables: Synergistic Research: Tricon USB, Tesla LE Acoustic Reference & Precision Reference XLR ICs, Tesla LE Acoustic Reference speaker cables, Tesla LE Subwoofer 2 cables, QLS9 & T2 power cable; Black Cat Veloce 75 ohm; DH Lab Silver HDMI 1.4; W4S P1 Ultra Power cables, DH Labs Power Plus AC Cable; Shunyata Venom 3.
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07-17-2012, 12:01 PM #429Newbie
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Hello Damien,
Thanks for the work. I've been enjoying Audirvana Plus for sometime . . . until yesterday I found the beta that has Direct Mode.
I have to say Direct Mode is amazing, a huge difference when enabled, but somehow either my 10.7.4 or Halide Design SPDIF Bridge doesn't work well with the latest beta. It plays for a while, and then a huge ban from my speaker, and my laptop freezes.
I'd like to share the crash report as the attachment.
Thank You.
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07-17-2012, 12:08 PM #430
That isn't streaming, it's more like downloading, because the track doesn't starts playing before the file was completely transferred.
Step 1: I select a song in iTunes for playback
Step 2: The file (not the music stream) will be transfered over the air.
Step 3: Now as the music file is completely locally available, iTunes (or Audirvana in our case) starts playing the file.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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07-17-2012, 12:42 PM #431
Rubens, this is very reminiscent of its behavior on my system. See my post of 8:53 pm yesterday. If I start the computer and first play a DSD file, kernel panic without fail. Once I play a PCM file, I can play as many DSD files as I want without a problem, until the next restart.
One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller
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07-17-2012, 01:07 PM #432ReadyNAS Duo > iTunes > Audirvana Plus > Musical Fidelity V-Link 192 > Tact 2.0S > Benchmark DAC-1 HDR > Carver Cherry 180s > Vandersteen Model 5a
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07-17-2012, 01:18 PM #433
My Wi-Fi is 802.11n. Damien has already contacted me. Thanks.
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07-17-2012, 09:03 PM #434
I've been using the Wadia 121 with one of the recent integer mode Beta releases. Works great, no issues at all and sounds wonderful with well recorded material. If you haven't already, try some of the Reference Recordings HRX DVD-R's.
Reference Recordings in the News
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07-18-2012, 10:46 AM #435Newbie
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Me too!!
I had no luck with 1.3.9.5. Every time I load A+ with integer mode, I found KP all the time. I had to go back to 1.3.9.3.
After reading your posts, I tried it again with non integer mode first play and enable it later. Surprisingly, it works very well and now I can enjoy it even with some procedure to do every time after new system startup.
Thank you for your valued comment.
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07-20-2012, 01:48 AM #436Sophomore Member
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I'm after a OS-X player that supports in-build convolution (so as to create a 3-way cross-over in the digital domain). Is this feature included in Audirvana Direct Mode? And, if so, then are there instructions / guide that can help me with the set-up? (This will be my first exploration of OS-X as I'm using a new MacBook Air running Windows bootcamp for work but wanted to use OS-X for media playback).
APS
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07-20-2012, 02:26 AM #437Freshman Member
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No. Shoot, you need a Hypex DLCP, not yet ready... but I wish it were. And a multiway buffered-output preamp. Such are uncommon in this universe! And I wouldn't trust my signal with current alternatives like a DEQX or a PA crossover.
TWC broadband, Motorola SB6141 to router, CAT 6A ethernet to Mac Mini early 2012, iTunes, Pure Music 1.89, changing to Audirvana 1.46 any day now, Schiit Bifrost via USB, HDMI Detective+, Bel Canto Pre3 feeding 2x Bel Canto S300 amps which vertically biamp 2x ATC SCM20SL (passive 2-ways), 2x Velodyne DD12+, each side mounted vertically on 3-tiered Sound Anchor ADJ2 stands: ATC (top), amp (middle), sub (bottom).
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07-20-2012, 03:07 AM #438Junior Member
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3-way Crossover
Damien said he is focussing on implementing Direct Mode in this release, and then he intends to add plugin support in the next release. However, i don't recall whether he announced plans to support multi-channel output as required for a crossover. Try searching the previous Audirvana Plus thread:
Audirvana Plus with iTunes Integration
Pure Music has 2-, 3- and 4-way crossovers built in, provided you are willing to use one of the built-in 6, 12, 18 or 24 dB/octave filter slopes.
http://www.channld.com/PureMusicCrossover.pdf
Pure Music also has multi-channel AU plugin support, so you could use a 3rd-party convolution plugin to implement a crossover.
CHANNEL D - Pure MusicMac Mini (2010) > Audirvana Plus, BitPerfect or Pure Music > Metric Halo LIO-8 > Parasound JC-1 > Thiel 3.7
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07-20-2012, 03:27 AM #439Junior Member
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If people want to discuss multi-channel crossovers apart from Audirvana, I think someone should start a new thread rather than hijacking this one.
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07-20-2012, 04:21 AM #440
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07-20-2012, 06:56 AM #441Newbie
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07-20-2012, 02:56 PM #443Freshman Member
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07-21-2012, 09:43 AM #444
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07-21-2012, 10:57 AM #445Sophomore Member
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I must be one of the lucky ones. I have been listening to 1.3.9.5 for three days with only one small problem - when I switch track to a different album, either by mouse click or using the iPad Remote app, it occasionally drops a faction of a second at the beginning of the new track. It sounds like a hiccup. It probably happens once every 40 to 50 tracks. Other than that, everything else is rock solid and no kernel panic (thank Almighty).
It is running with Exclusive Access, Direct Mode, Integer Mode, Max I/O buffer on.
The Mac is a 2009 Mini with 2 GHz Core 2 Duo, 8G RAM (5G allocated to A+); the DAC is a Benchmark DAC-1 USB.
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07-22-2012, 04:11 AM #446
Overall, for me 1.3.9.5 is working pretty well. No kernel panic, great sound, and no more stuttering.
However, I have a lot of smart playlists of the type of "not played in the last 6 months". When Audirvana finishes playing the first song of that playlist, it tries to load the next one, starts playing it for half a second, but during this time the smart playlist gets updated (as the first song is now removed from the playlist) and then Audirvana immediately stops.
Damien, please look into this.iMac late 2009 8GB > Audirvana+/Amarra Hifi > Audioquest Forest USB > BelCanto mlink > Atlas Ascent BNC > Exposure 2010S2 Dac > Audioquest King Cobra > Exposure 3010S2 Integrated > Chord Carnival Classic > B&W CM8
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07-22-2012, 05:23 AM #447Freshman Member
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I have a new Mac mini. I have one question. Is there *any* version of audirvana which is stable with OS Lion? Thanks.
TWC broadband, Motorola SB6141 to router, CAT 6A ethernet to Mac Mini early 2012, iTunes, Pure Music 1.89, changing to Audirvana 1.46 any day now, Schiit Bifrost via USB, HDMI Detective+, Bel Canto Pre3 feeding 2x Bel Canto S300 amps which vertically biamp 2x ATC SCM20SL (passive 2-ways), 2x Velodyne DD12+, each side mounted vertically on 3-tiered Sound Anchor ADJ2 stands: ATC (top), amp (middle), sub (bottom).
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07-22-2012, 05:42 AM #448Freshman Member
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This is a thread about a beta version helping to improve the future release of A+. If you want/need a stable version why don't you use the official release 1.3.5 available on Damien's website. No one should install beta software on a productive system and if so a proper backup is mandatory.
I use direct mode A+ beta since it's initial availability. But I created an additional partition on my MBP for a clean install of Lion just to beta test A+. My shared library sits on an external hard drive. I did never have a kernel panic no matter which direct mode release I was testing.
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07-22-2012, 09:38 PM #449
Damien, I've just installed an outboard USB/SPDIF device which allows for integer mode...so I now get a living sense of a "kernel panic"....system falls apart every hour or so...but still, in the intervals between KP, sounds great.
WDwMac Mini - Audirvana - BADA & BADA USB - Levinson - Nordost - Aerials
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07-23-2012, 02:28 AM #450Freshman Member
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Thank you haujobb. I've been reading hundreds of Audirvana posts, but I missed the large section in the iTunes Integration thread that traces the success of older and current releases--it wasn't an obvious place to look if you only viewed the last few weeks. But now, I'm sure to get A+ 1.3.5 as you suggested. Best regards
TWC broadband, Motorola SB6141 to router, CAT 6A ethernet to Mac Mini early 2012, iTunes, Pure Music 1.89, changing to Audirvana 1.46 any day now, Schiit Bifrost via USB, HDMI Detective+, Bel Canto Pre3 feeding 2x Bel Canto S300 amps which vertically biamp 2x ATC SCM20SL (passive 2-ways), 2x Velodyne DD12+, each side mounted vertically on 3-tiered Sound Anchor ADJ2 stands: ATC (top), amp (middle), sub (bottom).
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