• Rhino Records Downloads


    Get your credit cards ready to inject your own personal stimulus package into the economy. Rhino Records now has lossless downloads from major popular artists. Just a cursory look at the Rhino site and one will see downloads from Bad Company, The Doors, Otis Reading, The Eagles, Led Zeppelin, Chicago, Van Halen, etc... FLAC, WMA, and Apple Lossless are are all available!



    I was in the middle of writing a review of the dCS components I've been listening to for weeks. I posted an update to my Twitter page and noticed a Tweet from Rhino Records eluding to lossless downloads. I went to the Rhino site and actually got goose-bumps I was so excited. Rhino has around 2000 artists listed on its website. A quick browse through some of my favorites leads me to believe digital downloads are available for many of them!


    Not only are there a ton of great artists available, but Rhino is also educating its customers about CODECs, Bit Rates, and higher quality sound. Here are a couple screenshots from the site.



    One more note: If you're not familiar with Emmylou Harris and her album Wrecking Ball, you must download the lossless version from Rhino. If you want to sample one track first track titled Where Will I Be. This album has great production value and has even better music.



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    Comments 75 Comments
    1. manisandher's Avatar
      manisandher -
      ... but yet another site that pretty much all of us outside North America cannot enjoy!<br />
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      What I don't understand is how sites like Linn in the UK can and do allow downloads to everyone. There has got to be a solution for sites like Rhino and HDTracks...<br />
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      Mani.
    1. soppman's Avatar
      soppman -
      is the digital release a remaster? and why should you pay more for download then psysical cd? this is just ridiculous
    1. jky999's Avatar
      jky999 -
      We have a winner.......Prince's Sexy M.F. available in hi-def download.
    1. One and a half's Avatar
      One and a half -
      that induces people to steal music, is to restrict selling it. OR is it the financial system in the USA, that shuns foreign credit cards. Most likely distributorships in other countries are restricting downloads to occur. <br />
      The Chinese will figure out a way, and best of all it won't cost anything, hence encouraging to steal.
    1. BobH's Avatar
      BobH -
      Further to the 'Only in the USA' comments, this is from the Rhino site :<br />
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      <em>At this time digital downloads are only available to customers using a credit or debit card issued by a U.S bank with a U.S. billing address, or those making the purchase and downloading the file while in the U.S. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you.</em><br />
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      I wonder why they feel an apology is necessary? It makes it appear as though the decision is out of their control, as though some sort of trade restriction is in place. I've never had any sort of problem at all, purchasing goods from US companies, until it comes to digital downloads of 'most' music. I say 'most' because this restriction certainly doesn't apply to <em>all</em> music download sites.<br />
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      It feels to me like the sort of business stupidity we have come to expect of the major record labels. I'd love to know the real reason!
    1. Eric2's Avatar
      Eric2 -
      Fixed feelings about this one. <br />
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      Rhino are being proactive in offering lossless downloads which is very welcome but:<br />
      - why are the lossless files more expansive than MP3’s?<br />
      - 16/44.1k tracks should not be called Hi-Def, very misleading. Rhino have a few DVD-A disks so no reason not to release 24/96 or above, maybe they will, I hope so.<br />
      - A shame there's no AIFF option<br />
      - as already mentioned why not available to customers worldwide.<br />
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      One day!
    1. ted_b's Avatar
      ted_b -
      We know what HiRez is; these aren't hirez. Just because they also sell Mp3's doesn't give them the right to confuse an already confused public. Their website does do a certain level of educating, but to lower the bar to say FLAC is HiDef is BS. if you show someone VHS quality, then DVD you still can't now call DVD "BlURay".<br />
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    1. The Computer Audiophile's Avatar
      The Computer Audiophile -
      Wow, the glass is more than half empty today! You guys are a tough crowd (more than usual). <br />
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      I am very excited about this and hope others are as well :~)
    1. ted_b's Avatar
      ted_b -
      24/96 to call it Very-High-Def, and 24/192, Super-Very-Hi-Def. <br />
      Seriously, your name goes a long way with the industry's move to downloadable content. They should know better than to call redbook HD. Give them two pats on the head for doing this lossless stuff, then a kick in the rear for their misinformation.
    1. The Computer Audiophile's Avatar
      The Computer Audiophile -
      Hi Ted - I hear you about calling Redbook high def. I do have a message into Rhino already to chat about some things :~)
    1. Nyal Mellor's Avatar
      Nyal Mellor -
      Good move in the right direction!<br />
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      On the subject of why only US, it might be because in the olden days (and maybe still now) companies sometimes used to license rights to music geographically. It obviously a big job to clear up all those copyright issues. Not sure or not if that has something to do with why they are only selling in US.
    1. The Computer Audiophile's Avatar
      The Computer Audiophile -
      Hi Guys - I posted this in a previous discussion about international availability of downloads. I'll repost here as well.<br />
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      Here is part of an email discussion I had with someone very familiar with this topic. I removed the identifying information where appropriate but the main points of the message are really what matters in this discussion. This person wrote the following to me late in 2008:<br />
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      <i>"The problem with international sales of downloadable music is this:</i><br />
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      <i>Recordings are generally speaking a work of art and thus protected under copyright laws. The artitst who originally composed the muisc do have the legal rights to it for 70 years (in the US) or 50 years (in the EU). When these works are sold as a recording there is something called "mechanicals" involed. A part of the product price goes to the author or to the organization representing him. Legally these mechanicals have to be paid in the country of the purchaser as the different countries do have very different calculation approaches and rates. If these mechanical rates are not paid it technically is an illegal download as the author of the music will not participate from the sale<br />
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      <i>Furthermore there is also the problem of value addet tax (VAT). In the U.S. this does not yet exist on internet purchases but in the EU you do have to pay the VAT for downloads in the country in which the purchaser resides. With different VAT rates in different countries this means different prices for identical products. Again technically speaking a downloader would have to notifiy the local tax office to pay VAT. Obviously that is close to impossible to check and a U.S. company would find it burdensome to pay VAT abroad, especially as this would drive up their prices.</i><br />
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      <i>Finally many works are protected by distribution agreements only giving local rights of sale as other companies my have legally acquired the rights to these recordings elsewhere.</i><br />
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      <i>With all of this you will find that [many companies] don't sell outside the US as the legal implications would be extremely difficult to tackle. Just to give you an idea: i-Tunes in Europe is having different prices for identical downloads depending on the location of the downloader. They have to report to 27 different tax offices and 27 different copyright organizations monthly and use 23 different languages in that and pay accordingly. That is something you will not see many US companies willing to do for a market that has not embraced commercial downloads. To put it in a nutshell: It seems even i-Tunes in the EU (who is the biggest fish in the pool by far) is loosing money to date."</i>
    1. got tinnitus's Avatar
      got tinnitus -
      I was stoked to read the post re Rhino but 3 seconds later I was equally as bummed..... <br />
      US only. Gosh darn it.<br />
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      BTW, I can see why Rhino are saying 16bit/44.1 is Hi-Res IF the releases are fully 16bit/44.1. <br />
      Many modern CD releases don't get near 16bit....<br />
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    1. Nyal Mellor's Avatar
      Nyal Mellor -
      Thanks Chris - that was much more than I could contribute on the topic of geographical issues!
    1. digger945's Avatar
      digger945 -
      Well I will be very excited with you Chris. This has been a long time coming. I think this will be a very successful venture for the folks who created Rhino. While a quick scan of the website yielded about a 50% return on my searches, I am sure they will be adding more artists as demand warrants.<br />
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      It's nice to know that if I can't find that CD I'm looking for at one of the used music stores or online, I can download and enjoy without delay, without worrying about scratches.<br />
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      I must note that it appears you will only be allowed to download a track or album once after payment, so backup is necessary.
    1. icebreaker's Avatar
      icebreaker -
      I'll have to register a grievance under NAFTA. So much for the free trade agreement with the U.S. <br />
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      On a brighter note the Rhino site has great offering of music for U.S. residents. The future is here.<br />
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    1. bottlerocket's Avatar
      bottlerocket -
      Cheer up, the digital appears to be half price - 75 cents a track at the moment. Good deal.
    1. The Computer Audiophile's Avatar
      The Computer Audiophile -
      Hey bottlerocket - I didn't even notice the half price sale going on for digital downloads! I decided to take advantage of it and purchased a ton of material. This is really cool.<br />
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      Then I found out the Rhino Download Manager doesn't work on a single computer of mine, Windows or OS X. Check the screenshot below. This is what happens when one has to download $123 worth of files manually :~(<br />
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    1. catastrofe's Avatar
      catastrofe -
      Well I certainly don't think the "HiDef" moniker is warranted but let's face it, Rhino is marketing to the uneducated masses that see nothing wrong with MP3. For this market segment, Redbook is HiDef.<br />
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      I for one appreciate Rhino's wide download offering, price notwithstanding. HDTracks is my primary source, but they can't seem to get their catalog expanded very quickly.
    1. bottlerocket's Avatar
      bottlerocket -
      I had trouble with the 1st order. I highly recommend downloading the download manager first before the first order (not sure how to do that thought) or make your first order very small. (Talking MAC OSX here) The download works off a download stack that looks like this "RhinoOrder-RH9322xxxxxx.rhdlm". This file went to my download folder. It then automatically opens this file via the Rhino Download Manager and does its thing. On the first order, it did not automatically open so that was very confusing. So if this happens, go find the .rhdlm file and click it and it will invoke the Rhino download manager. Also you need to set your preferences in the download manager to say where to put the files. It did import ALAC automatically into ITunes very well. I then converted to AIFF. <br />
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